‘She has no ambition’: I’m 41, and make $100,000. I’m buying a home before getting married. My fiancée earns $50,000 and has $20,000 in student debt. What’s a fair prenup?
Dear Quentin,
I have been in my current relationship for almost three years. I’m a young woman, 41, have a great, stable career and make about $100,000 a year. I am ambitious and my prospects have me increasing my income by $10,000 every year. I have about $140,000 in savings, and no debt. I am close to closing on a home, which will be completely financed by me.
My girlfriend, 38, works a few gig-type jobs that she loves and makes $50,000 a year. She has very little in savings, and about $20,000 in student loans, and isn’t in the position to buy or help with down payment/closing costs etc. She lives paycheck to paycheck, pretty much, and as she loves what she does, isn’t motivated to do anything else to make more.
We don’t live together, but we have started the marriage discussion, and plan on moving in together when I close. My family isn’t thrilled about the relationship for a few reasons. My girlfriend doesn’t have a stable career. She has no ambition, and makes significantly less than I do.
“‘My girlfriend, 38, works a few gig-type jobs that she loves and makes $50,000 a year. She has very little in savings.’”
She understands and has said she is happy to sign a prenup. I will also add that my brother is going through a nasty divorce so the whole family is on edge. We all live in Louisiana — a community-property-law state — and his cheating and gambling estranged wife is taking him to the cleaners.
Given all this, I need help figuring out what’s fair for the prenup and for our living situation. For the prenup, I was thinking that we include no spousal support/alimony, no sharing of retirement accounts/contributions made during marriage, and everyone’s debt incurred during the marriage is their own.
The new house and mortgage will be in my name alone. Whatever she contributes to the mortgage will be reimbursed if I ever sell the house — but not if we get a divorce. Also, she will be reimbursed for contributions towards capital improvements.
“‘We will create a household budget to include combined expenses, mortgage, utilities, groceries, and dining out together.’”
As far as living arrangements, we will create a household budget to include combined expenses such as mortgage, utilities, groceries, dining out together, etc. Until we get married we will split things down the middle. After marriage, we will open joint savings and checking accounts.
We each contribute the same percentage to our checking account to cover the household budget so I would pay more since I make more. Then we contribute the same amount each month to a joint savings account to build a joint emergency fund.
I cannot plan for every eventuality, and these are very unsexy pre-marital conversations. Is there anything else I am not thinking about? Does this seem fair to me and my partner?
Planning Wedding & Prenup
Dear Planning,
I can answer your penultimate question. The final question is for your partner.
Marriage is many things, but as you suggest, it is a business contract in addition to a commitment to spend the rest of your life together. Or, at the very least, a show of willingness to do that. Before I get into the nitty gritty of your prenuptial agreement, the overarching feeling from your letter is one person who holds all the cards, and another person who doesn’t get much of a look in. Indeed, you mention that your family doesn’t support the relationship, and your fiancée is vaguely, likely unfairly, compared to your ne’er-do-well former sister-in-law.
I don’t get a clear sense from your letter that you respect and/or support your partner’s choices. If you have misgivings about her unwillingness to switch to a higher-paying career — instead of the one that makes her happy — the differences in your respective outlooks will only get worse as time goes on, especially as the economic imbalance in your relationship grows. Dividing your finances forensically will only go so far. Your letter focused on the finance, but I guess I was hoping to read one nice thing about your fiancée. And I’m sure she has many fine qualities.
“‘I don’t get a clear sense from your letter that you respect and/or support your partner’s choices.’”
There are no hard-and-fast rules when it comes to prenuptial agreements. It really depends on what each party believes is fair. Your fiancée is signed up, but if you are reimbursing her for her contributions to your mortgage if you sell the house, it would make sense (for her) if you would apply this principle to a possible divorce. Otherwise, she will be punished if you split, but the outcome is the same for you. I would suggest that any percentage your fiancée contributes to the mortgage is based on your salaries. If you pay $1,000, she pays $500.
As you set up a joint account, you should ensure that the money from that account is not used to make significant renovations to your house or that you use joint funds to pay the mortgage. That would likely commingle the property, and turn it from separate to marital/community property. Finally, “ambition” is a tricky word, and “no ambition” are trickier words. You are equating salary with ambition, and your partner makes pretty close to the average salary in Louisiana. Ambition could also mean making a living doing something you love.
This prenup protects you. I’m not sure it does exactly that for your fiancée.
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